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Sam and I have decided to have a BABY!!!!

Date: 2006-04-13 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaman-x.livejournal.com
They do. And not in the good way, either.

Date: 2006-04-13 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birthrightgreen.livejournal.com
*amused*

The good way I understand. I haven't heard it used in this other fashion.

Date: 2006-04-13 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaman-x.livejournal.com
Disgustingly disagreeable. There's some suggestion the slang term originates from early Jazz tradition in the 1920s when musicians said players who had a good sound when playing horns could really blow; hence 'he doesn't blow, he sucks' to be bad and thence into common usage. Although that's possible apocryphal to allow it into dictionaries and the like without having to make references to fellatio, although I've never really understood why 'cocksucker' is considered an insult. Maybe because it's incorrectly seen as a submissive act and our culture rates power and dominance as features of a successful person.

...on occasion I talk too much, you should feel free to stop me at any time.

Date: 2006-04-13 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birthrightgreen.livejournal.com
I don't mind the talking. It's very informative.

We rate power and dominance as features of success in a way, too, I suppose.

You don't see it as a submissive act?

Date: 2006-04-13 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaman-x.livejournal.com
Well, I'm not saying it can't be, I mean, it often is, especially if consent is dubious, coerced or non-extant, but-- Inherently submissive? No way! For one thing, we have teeth, you know?

Date: 2006-04-13 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birthrightgreen.livejournal.com
You are absolutely right about the teeth, sugar. If using them costs more than submitting though...*shrugs*

Date: 2006-04-13 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaman-x.livejournal.com
But in a coercive enviroment any performed act is an act of submission because of the coercion, not the act itself. And, and, and if you're, I dunno, okay, if you blow a guy so he won't kill you, that's actually an act of control, isn't it? I mean, choice, compromise as a form of, or, or, or at least an attempt to-towards self-determination. Just 'cause all your choices are crappy doesn't mean you don't have a choice. Not submissive. ...or if you're using it as a bargaining tool! Not submissive. And if you're doing it right, I mean, you can slow down, you can speed up, you can make them beg you to finish them, you, uh, you, um. *slight blush* Okay, suddenly I'm really uncomfortable talking about this with my Dad's girlfriend.

Date: 2006-04-13 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birthrightgreen.livejournal.com
*rueful smile*

We can change the subject then. I hadn't expected to get into a discussion of the....finer points of the act, myself. You're right about the control aspect, I suppose, and bargaining tools.

New subject?

Date: 2006-04-14 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaman-x.livejournal.com
Okay. Um. Oh! I see the five question thing has come up again. That's always fun! Ask me?

Date: 2006-04-14 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birthrightgreen.livejournal.com
All right..

1. If you could change any one thing about yourself, would you and if so, what would it be?
2. What is the best thing about being a mutant?
3. How do you like being married?
4. Why do people say there is gold at the end of a rainbow?
5. Where is your favorite place and time to visit with all the jumping around you do?

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